tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN June 30, 2011 11:00pm-12:00am PDT
> tonight we're going to bring you a view of casey anthony you've never seen before. we obtained video of crazy when she was a little girl, 5 years old. it's a birthday caylee would never reach. as casey's defense wraps up we'll wrap up the final day of testimony and dig deeper on two questions everybody seems to have been asking, would she testify? and then why didn't she? we begin though keeping them honest with new and troubling developments in a disaster both anderson and i saw up close. the nuclear catastrophe in fukushima japan. today's headline, the government recommending more evacuations. hard to believe, 113 additional households in four districts in the city of date. far beyond the mandatory exclusion zone set up for 20 kilometers around the tripled reactors. these are newly designated hot spots. separately, according to a citizens group and a french ngo, trace amounts of radio isotopes have now been found elsewhere in children as far as 24 miles beyond that mandatory evacuation zone. additionally, this french ngo says it's been long warning that allowable levels of radiation exposure set up by the government is simply too lax and that really frames our
hypothesis for tonight. this is something anderson and i and a lot of outside experts noticed almost day one. bad news was consistently downplayed and delayed for days sometimes weeks by the japanese government or the plant operator tepco. you'll recall on the 11th of march, tsunami waves crippled these cooling plants at the fukushima daiichi complex that set up meltdowns and ex poerkss in reactors and a meltdown in a fourth. green peace scientists said they'd collected enough data to judge this disaster a level seven. that's the worst kind possible. other experts agreed. but it took until april 12 for the japanese government to call the partial meltdown of three nuclear reactors a level seven disaster. as for people living nearby, the japanese government waited until april 11th to widen its danger zone beyond 20 kilometers. that's nearly a month after the u.s. government recommended americans living inside 80 kilometers of the plant either leave or stay indoors. and then there's this.
>> we think there is a partial meltdown, but that as you correctly noted, that doesn't necessarily mean the containment vessel will fail. >> that's energy secretary steven chu testifying before congress on march 16th. on april 2nd he said that based on high radiation levels, 70% of the number one reactor core had been damaged. secretary chu, by the way, is a nobel laureate physicist. yet the next day after this japan's nuclear safety agency says the core damage was only 3% and it would take until june 6 before japanese officials would reveal that three reactors at the fukushima daiichi plant experienced full meltdowns. a day later the government admitted that the plant spewed out more than twice as much radiation as originally estimated. it's a lot here and credit for putting together this frankly troubling timeline goes to my colleague in tokyo, kyung lah. i spoke with her about all this
along with industry veteran and plant operator michael friedlander. >> reporter: time and time again sources have warned about this and finally japan admits the truth. what is your sense about this? are they purposely stalling? is it inefficiency or are they just being inept? >> reporter: maybe a little bit of both, sanjay. in the beginning a lot of people say, okay, perhaps they were overwhelmed, that they weren't properly prepared as the aiea suggested for such a disaster and there was so much going on. but that pass has certainly gone by at this point. now what a lot of people in the public are feeling is that it does appear that they're either stalling or not being able to face reality. for example, i mean if you look at the timeline that you just laid out and then you look at what's ahead, the fact that
there is this cold shutdown, that the government at tepco says will happen by the end of the year, most outside experts say that's probably not going to happen. >> if you break it down and look at all the various issues surrounding this, michael, what concerns you the most going forward at this point? >> well, sanjay, actually there are two things that trouble me. the first, of course, we've talked about this before is the snail's pace of progress. we've seen over the course of the last few weeks that they've been able to make some pretty important headway in terms of cooling spent fuel pools and stabilizing spent fuel pools. put functionally the reactors themselves, reactors one, two and three are in almost the same configuration they were in in late march. quite honestly, an earthquake, a tsunami, a plant mishap such as a fire or an industrial accident could certainly set us back all the way back to where we were early in march. and potentially cause the situation where we would have another significant release of radiation to the environment. you have to remember too as well in this region of the world we've now entered the typhoon season. these plants are located on the east coast of japan.
so they are subject to the portions of a typhoon. the second issue that worries me, tepco had their annual general shareholders meeting on tuesday. all 17 of the reactors were re-elected to their position, the chairman was re-elected to his position. and so it seems to be as sort of a situation of status quo, keep continuing doing what we've been doing for some time. >> yeah. it's interesting both at the industrial level as well as the government level. i want to talk to you about that in a second. but kyung, one of the things i was trying to figure out even when i was there, do people believe they were exposed to nuclear risk longer simply because the government and tepco were not forthcoming? do they put people at risk? >> absolutely. absolutely. if you talk to anyone who lives in that immediate evacuation zone or just outside the evacuation zone, there are still people living in their houses, they absolutely feel that was the case and that it is still happening. there's a group loosely known as the fukushima mothers.
they believe that government is continuing to put public health on the back burner. case in point, the children of fukushima city, there are about 34,000 of them, this september will start wearing dosimeters. they'll in effect become little mobile radiation detectors and monitors throughout the fukushima region. so what these mothers are saying, isn't this operating in reverse? shouldn't we act out of abundance of caution and then try to collect the data to support that? and it appears still according to many of the people who live up there that government is acting in reverse. >> yeah. i got to say, if those were my children i certainly would say the same thing. i mean, michael, at the government level -- and a lot of people may know this but japanese prime minister kahn barely survived a no confidence a few weeks ago after saying he'd resign when the nuclear
situation was under control. now, you believe that that whole situation is affecting how his government is disseminating information. how so? >> well, i'm not an insider. but from the outside sort of taking a look at things as they've been progressing and where we see them going, you certainly have to consider the possibility as you suggested that the political system is affecting the way the accident and the way the recovery efforts are being managed. of dragging things out he gets to stay in power longer. and it certainly is a situation that longer it drags out, memories begin to fade, and then after a period of time, of course, they can take credit for navigating the country through some very difficult things. >> kyung, do you have anything to say about that? is there in your opinion any public trust left in the japanese government or tepco over this whole issue? >> as far as how people feel about the government and tepco, i can tell you that there is very, very little confidence. polls suggest -- a recent poll suggested only 23% of the people approve of the government. and the approval ratings for tepco are even lower. they're in the gutter. on a recent saturday there were
some 20,000 people who marched through the streets of tokyo. that is an extraordinary number in japan. that is something you never see. >> kyung lah, michael friedlander, thanks so much. >> let us know what you think as well. we're on facebook. you can follow me on twitter @ sanjay gupta cnn. just ahead, the casey anthony trial and what the alleged mistress says she heard. what krystal holloway says casey's dad told her. could this establish reasonable doubt? also exclusive video only here on 360, what casey anthony said when she was a little girl. next up, though, drew griffin keeping them honest, tracking down doctors who prescribe powerful mind-altering drugs on the internet to patients they've never even met. first, though, let's check in with isha sesay sanjay, it looks like a movie chase scene but it's not. real drug smugglers making a real run for the real border. only in this case the border happens to be a river. we'll show you what happens next. that and much more when 360
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as a doctor and a father this hits home for me. how easy it's become to order dangerous drugs over the internet without a prescription. drew griffin has been doing some ground-breaking reporting on the the subject for some time. he's uncovered dozens of so-called rogue pharmacies online all advertising on google. sources tell us google is setting aside half a billion dollars to pay for what would be
one of the largest government fines ever, fines for accepting online pharmacy ads that break american law. here's drew now keeping them honest with the latest. >> reporter: it was a simple transaction. a woman addicted to pain killers in washington state goes online, googles her drug of choice, and find the dealer to satisfy her habit. >> i just timed in soma and all these web sites popped up. and i just picked one. >> reporter: the addictive muscle relaxant arrives no questions asked with a prescription signed by a doctor she never met. this doctor, who lives on long island, new york, thousands of miles away. >> did you ever see this patient, nancy fitzpatrick? can you let me know how these prescriptions are filled, sir? >> reporter: dr. karim tanos left without so much as saying a word. as cnn reported nearly three years ago, we know how this works.
and it's helped to fuel a spike in prescription drug abuse that medical experts say has spun out of control. we went online and bought one of america's most abused drugs. it showed up left on a doorstep the very next day. and this is what is inside. it's prozac in its generic form prescribed to me by a doctor i've never heard of somewhere in tennessee. what's happened in the last three years since we bought those drugs? not much. dr. tanos still has a license to practice medicine. and online pharmacies like this one are still easily accessed and eager to sell their drugs. but that could be about to change. sources tell cnn the u.s. department of justice is zeroing in on the one megasearch engine that has repeatedly been warned that it is facilitating all these drug addictions. google. >> we noticed that these were drugs that could be acquired without a prescription, the
advertisement when you'd bang in on google you bang in vicodin without a prescription. oxycontin without a prescription and up would come these sites. >> reporter: joseph califano is now 80 years old, a true washington insider. he was a former aide to lyndon johnson, cabinet secretary under jimmy carter. when he left government he founded a public interest think tank devoted to fighting drug abuse. and in 2008, the same year we were buying our drugs online, the same year the woman south of seattle was buying hers online, joseph califano was writing to google, telling google's then chairman and current executive chairman, erik schmidt, that google was filled with prominent displays of ads for rogue pharmacies, suggesting that google is profiting from advertisements for illegal sales of controlled prescription drugs online. google says it stopped the practice last year and has filed lawsuits against some of the
online drug advertisers, but califano says these sites appear and then disappear, often overnight. >> i wrote to mr. schmidt and asked him, please, you have to look at what's going on. why are we having such an explosion in prescription drug abuse among teenagers and kids? where do they get them? >> reporter: google, he said, never responded. and google still isn't responding, telling cnn through a spokesperson "as this is a legal matter, we're not commenting on it". now cnn has confirmed google is bracing for what could be the biggest fine in u.s. government history for allowing the illegal flow of pharmaceuticals through its search engine. in an s.e.c. filing, the company disclosed it was setting aside a half billion dollars to potentially settle a department of justice criminal investigation that involved "certain advertisers". sources confirmed to cnn those advertisers were rogue, online
pharmacies that were paying google for its services. the real question califano was asking, why google couldn't have done something sooner. >> to me it's an example of putting profits over people. that's what we're talking about here. and it's bad, really bad, because it's kids. >> fascinating report, drew. let me ask a couple of questions. first of all, why go after google specifically? i mean, they're not selling the actual drugs. that's being done by these rogue pharmacies. >> reporter: that's true. but google is getting money from this business in terms of the advertisements. secondly, sanjay, google has been warned about this by many different agencies and others, and they've been able to watch our reports. but i think what you're seeing here is a real acknowledgement that you know what? law enforcement is pretty much helpless to stop this without industry cooperation. there's just too many of these pharmacies. they're too hard to prosecute on an individual basis.
and unless google and other internet providers police themselves, i don't think police stand a chance. >> drew, i want to sharing is interesting with you as well. there was a study done by mass general hospital in the usc california that showed that states who had the fastest expansion of their high-speed internet systems back in the early 2,000s also had the highest rate of hospital admissions for drug abuse. i found this really interesting. many people say that suggests these online farm says could be a big factor in the prescription drug problem overall. for one second i want to show you some numbers as to how big a problem we're talking about here. according to the national institute of drug abuse there are about 7 million people using prescription drugs for non-medical reasons. that was in 2009. that's about 3% of the population. nearly 1 in 12 high school seniors report non-medical use of vicodin, one in 20 say they used oxycontin. now, what's interesting, drew, is that 59% of those high school seniors also say they got the drugs from a friend or a relative, which brings up
another question. as you've been pointing out in your reports, it's so easy to buy these drugs online. but if the pharmacies start to shut down, can people get them from their family or friends pretty easily? >> reporter: they certainly will. but i think as the proliferation of the ease of getting these drugs. and even people who want these drugs, let's say a doctor prescribes them but the prescription runs out. they're addicted. they want to keep it going so they turn to the internet to keep it going and they bring those drugs into their homes for their children to pilfer through or their nephews and nieces to get. so i think it will slow the problem. it won't end the problem. prescription drug abuse in this country is huge and growing, but it's also very, very accessible online. >> and the numbers still just staggering. i know you know these but 36 million people bought these drugs from online pharmacies. many of them for legitimate reasons. buying quality drugs at a cheaper price because they're just so expensive. i did a little reporting on this as well for "60 minutes" and found that many of these
medicines being sold by online pharmacies are actually counterfeit drugs made in illicit labs overseas. so you can't even be sure the drugs sold by these online pharmacies are safe to take. one example, pfizer says counterfeit versions of their drugs have made it to pharmacies and hospitals in at least 46 different countries, including england, including canada and right here in the united states as well. so it's not just a question of easy access to these online pharmacies. it's also a health and safety issue as well. >> reporter: absolutely right. but you know what, a couple of years ago the fda tried that route warning people about buying these drugs online. it didn't really stop. that message did not get across. so people are still trying to access these online pharmacies even with the risks, sanjay. >> my parents do it as well, in part because of these high costs. again, a fascinating report. drew griffin, many thanks. coming up, breaking news, new developments that could blow the sexual assault case against the french diplomat dominique strauss-kahn to pieces. we'll tell you about it.
plus the defense rests in the casey anthony trial after a dramatic day of testimony. what george anthony's alleged mistress said on the stand today. plus an exclusive look at home video that 360 has just obtained. it shows casey anthony as a child. maybe, it's something you haven't seen yet. the 2nd generation of intel core processors. this is visibly smart. soft! hard! [ male announcer ] how do you decide between crunchy and soft tacos? why don't we have both? [ male announcer ] old el paso. hard and soft tacos. ♪ feed your fiesta.
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breaking news tonight. the sexual assault case against former imf head dominique strauss-kahn may be in real trouble. a defense source has told cnn there are serious issues with the credibility of the housekeeper who claims that he attacked her in his manhattan hotel suite. on the phone joins us, susan candiotti and jeffrey toobin who's just spoken with a member of the dsk defense team.
susan, you've been talking to your sources. what is the nature of these credibility issues? >> reporter: our sources are being very protective about what they want to say about this. but suffice is to say that information apparently that she has been providing to police is very troubling. so much so that reportedly -- and this is according to the "new york times" -- that prosecutors reached out to members of the ds defense team today and had a meeting with them to discuss some credibility issues that my sources tell me currently exist with the hotel maid at this point. this is a woman that we all have to remember that the police investigators, nypd, have repeatedly said was extremely credible in their view, that they got forensic evidence in the case from her and that they were standing by what this witness had to say. but of course, as these investigations go on by both sides, both police investigators and members of the defense team, they look into various aspects
of this case. and evidently some information has turned up that is troubling. now, specifically the "new york times" is reporting that among other things that a day before this woman talked with law enforcement officials, that she had had a conversation with a man who had been jailed in which she allegedly discussed the possible benefits as the no, times put it, of pursuing charges against him and that this conversation was recorded. . like-wise, the times is also reporting that this woman, the maid who made the allegations, also there were problems with the asylum application that she had made before she came to this country from africa in which things didn't quite match up. and suffice it to say that when they go into court tomorrow in a hastily arranged court hearing,
a source close to the defense team tells me that they will be asking the judge to modify the bail that has already been in place for dominique strauss-kahn, asking -- a motion, rather, to modify it. remember, he's already posted $1 million cash bond as well as a $5 million bond in order to be put under house arrest and be released from rikers jail. so we shall see what will happen in court tomorrow. but i'm told -- it should be something. >> i mean, this is happening. this is ongoing right now. again breaking news about the dsk case. jeffrey originally reported in the times but you've talked to the defense team as well tonight. what have you heard? >> reporter: well, this is just an extraordinary, extraordinary development, considering that this case was brought with such great fanfare by the manhattan district attorney, and they very loudly trumpeted the credibility of the accuser here. and the credibility appears --
and i hayes ten to say appears to have collapsed. . what makes it even more extraordinary is that evidence apparently shows dna evidence of a sexual encounter between dominique strauss-kahn and the woman who's the maid, yet even with dna evidence the prosecution is considering dropping the case. that shows how bad her credibility may be, that even with dna evidence they may not be able to bring this case. it's a shocking, shocking development. >> jeffrey, does that essentially mean that they're not saying that the sexual encounter did not happen but this is just all about the credibility of this maid? >> no. this is the thing that is so incredible is that obviously if there is dna evidence involving semen, a sexual encounter did take place. but even with the dna evidence, because the credibility of the accuser, the victim, is still at
issue, they may not be able to bring the case. her credibility may be so bad that even with dna evidence they still may not be able to bring the case. >> susan, i know this is all transpiring even as we're talking, but have you heard at all about what this means more immediately for strauss-kahn? could he possibly be released from house arrest as a result? i think susan -- jeffrey? >> reporter: sanjay, i can answer that. the answer is yes, that's what tomorrow's hearing is about. he is out on bail but he's restricted to house arrest. they may seek to have him released on his own recognizance where he can go wherever he wants as long as he doesn't leave the country. that's a major major change. >> so the overall impact -- i mean, how quickly could this all possibly transpire? we're talking tonight is thursday. how quickly does this all potentially happen?
>> certainly the bail issue will be dealt with tomorrow. as for whether the case will be dismissed altogether or there might be lesser charges, i suspect that will take longer. >> all right, jeffrey, thanks so much. susan candiotti as well. just ahead, the casey anthony testifies rested today. her lawyers never did put her on the stand. but you're going to see and hear her tonight right here in exclusive new video that 360 has obtained. first isha is back with a 360 business news bulletin the fbi is trying to figure out if a man who stowed away on a new york to l.a. flight last week just wanted free ride or was up to no good. he got through security and on the plane without a proper boarding pass. no one noticed until passengers complained about his body odor. he was detained and released, but was arrested yesterday when he tried to board a delta flight from l.a. to atlanta without a valid boarding pass. after being criticized by the president yesterday, there will be no vacation for the u.s. senate next week.
they'll be off on the fourth but then it's straight back to work on a bill to raise the debt ceiling and spending cuts republicans are demanding. army general david petraeus will be the next director of the cia. the senate vote to confirm him was unanimous. he now commands forces in afghanistan. he will succeed leon panetta. the man panetta will replace robert gates got a presidential sendoff today. he is the only secretary of defense who has served a republican, george w. bush, and a democrat, barack obama. and the newest royal sensations, will and kate, she is of course now catherine the duchess of cambridge are in canada tonight. it is the first official trip abroad. they won't be alone, sanjay. more than 1300 journalists are following their every move. 1300. i mean, what's there to say? >> they're just trying to have a romantic get away. newly married and 1300 of us in the media following them around are.
you going to be one of them by the way? >> no. i'll be here to bug you instead. >> never a bother. up next, the casey anthony defense rests without putting her on the stand. is that going to help her or hurt her when the jury deliberates? but the same jury incidentally did hear from the woman who claims she had an affair with casey's father and that he told her that little caylee died in an accident that spiralled out of control. an ac 360 has exclusive home video of casey anthony. you're going to see a completely different side of the woman accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter. >> announcer: this past year alone there's been a 67% spike in companies embracing the cloud-- big clouds, small ones, public, private, even hybrid. your data and apps must move easily and securely to reach many clouds, not just one. that's why the network that connects, protects, and lets your data move fearlessly through the clouds means more than ever.
in crime and punishment today, what can you say? a huge day in the casey anthony trial. the defense rested its case today and casey did not take the stand. among those final witnesses, though, casey's mother, father, brother. the defense's end game included testimony about how the anthony's family pets were buried. and earlier in the day, george anthony's alleged mistress was on the stand testifying about their affair. an affair that george denies they had. and what she says george told her about caylee's death. we have the latest from today's testimony in just a moment. first we want to show you something else. a 360 exclusive home video we just obtained of casey anthony as a child herself. now, this video is from a classmate's birthday party that casey went to in orlando in 1992. casey would have been almost six years old.
here you can see cindy anthony actually dropping her off. and here you can see casey. she's the one with the braid in her hair right over there. at the party all the kid wished their friends a happy birthday on camera. here's casey. >> happy birthday. my name's casey. >> wait a minute, casey. i didn't get you. >> happy birthday. my name's casey. >> it's a rare look at casey anthony as a child. that's home video obtained exclusively by "anderson cooper 360." all these years later casey anthony's life is on the line in her own murder trial, a trial that is almost over. martin savage was in the courtroom today when the defense rested after some pretty dramatic testimony. he has the latest. >> reporter: after three years of investigation and 32 days of testimony, it came down to five words. >> your honor, the defense rests. >> reporter: for attorney jose baez and his legal team, no more witnesses, no more evidence, and above all, no testimony from
25-year-old casey anthony. >> and it is your decision not to testify? >> yes,sir. >> have you had ample time to discuss this matter with your attorneys? that is the pros and cons of testifying or not testifying? >> yes,sir. >> and has anyone used any force or pressure in making you arrive at that decision? >> no, sir. >> and that decision is your decision freely and voluntarily. >> yes,sir. >> reporter: instead it was another woman who the defense hoped would support their claim that 2-year-old caylee anthony wasn't murdered but died the result of an accident covered up by casey and her father. >> defense calls krystal holloway. >> reporter: holloway, the defense claims, had unique access to the truth through casey's dad. >> did you develop a relationship with mr. anthony? >> yes,sir, i did.
>> and was this ain't mate relationship? >> yes. >> and did mr. anthony go to your home or your apartment? >> it was my home. and yes, he did. >> about how many times did he go to your house? >> maybe 12? >> reporter: and it was a one night in her home she said george anthony broke down. >> he was sitting on my couch. and i was sitting on the floor. and he had told me -- he had said it was an accident that snowballed out of control. but i was in shock many and by the time i looked up his eyes were filled with tears. and i didn't elaborate. i didn't ask him anything further. >> was this before caylee was found? >> yes,sir. >> reporter: on cross-examination, prosecution
attorney jeff ashton said holloway told police she never had an affair with anthony, suggesting she manufactured the story to sell to the media. >> and the story is much, much better if you're actually having an affair with george, right? it's much more sensational. >> i did have an affair with george. >> you would agree that the story is much sexier if you're actually having an affair with george than if you're just a friend. >> that's not true. >> reporter: ashton also got holloway to admit that in his breakdown, george anthony wasn't confessing his own role in his granddaughter's death. >> so they specifically asked you whether he said he was told about it or it was something that you believed. >> objection. >> overruled. >> you told them, he didn't say that. he said like he knew. so george made it clear to you that he did not have any first-hand knowledge of what happened to his granddaughter.
and that was the context of what he said, wasn't it? >> objection. the statement speaks for itself. >> overruled. >> correct. >> reporter: then the case took another strange turn as jose baez began asking george anthony about a number of dead family pets. >> did you have a dog named mandy in ohio, sir? >> reporter: the focus was not on how the animal died but how george would bury them, often wrapped in plastic with tape. >> when you found out that your granddaughter was found and with a blanket and with the plastic bag and with duct tape, did you tell law enforcement anytime over the last three years that that is the way you used to bury your pets? >> reporter: but with cindy anthony on the stand, the prosecution pointed out casey also knew the ritual. >> definitely by the time she's a senior in high school she was aware of the burial and the
method of burial in the yard? >> yes, ma'am. >> reporter: cindy anthony was also the focus of legal arguments today. casey's mom has said that she was the one on the home computer searching information on chloroform. the prosecution wants to introduce employment records they say show cindy was at work that day. the day ended with jurors reading the suicide note george anthony wrote when he attempted to kill himself six weeks after caylee's body was found. in it, instead of confessing to her death, a broken-hearted grandfather wonders who could have done such a thing. and in the close writes "caylee, here i come". martin savage, cnn, orlando. >> we're just days away from now the jury getting this case. now the defense has rested the judge says the prosecution's rebuttal witnesses will probably be done friday with closing arguments starting saturday morning. and then the judge will give the jury instructions.
and he says deliberations will probably start saturday afternoon. and those jurors are going to have a lot to talk about the. earlier i spoke with sonny hosten from "in session "our sister network and hln legal contributor linda kennedy badden casey anthony's former defense attorney prior to all this. >> linda, you used to be casey anthony's attorney. first of all do you agree with the decision today not to put her on the stand? >> absolutely. you know why? when this trial first started i thought that she had to go on the stand. that was my opinion after i listened to the opening statement. and yes, jose baez promised it and yes, it wasn't proven. but after the amount of mistakes made in this trial and i think reversible error if she gets convicted by the death penalty, i would have made the decision if i were the attorney there today not to put her on the stand. it was simply too dangerous, too much to give up. it was the best decision he made for his client. >> and did the defense accomplish what you think they wanted to or set out to? >> well, in terms of proving the abuse, no. in terms of proving that there may be reasonable doubt in the issue of the first degree murder conviction, i think absolutely there's a lot of the jury to work with.
because remember, that duct tape was very, very important. and what they did show is that that duct tape had been moved in some manner that you can't trust it. if you can't trust the duct tape you can't trust the death penalty conviction. >> sonny, let me ask you about that as well. last night you said you thought she would take the stand. were you surprised? >> i sure did. i am surprised. and that is because of what jose baez, sanjay, said in the opening statement. i always used to give these really big opening statements when i was a prosecutor. my supervisors would say sonny don't write a check to that jury they can't cash. you better have the evidence in the bank account. and i felt that jose baez wrote a very big check when he accused george anthony of sexually abusing casey anthony, when he said that caylee died an accidental death by drowning. where is the evidence of that? the only person that could have given that, that substantive evidence, that affirmative evidence, was casey anthony. now his check has bounced with this jury. i think he's lost all credibility with the jury, and i think that spells trouble for this defense. >> but he did raise a lot of
confusion, though, which may have been part of the point as well. also jurors heard from krystal holloway, sonny, who allegedly had an affair with casey's father. she claims that george anthony told her caylee's death was an accident that snowballed out of control. did you find her credible overall? >> you know, i really did. i found her very credible, especially when you juxtapose her testimony today with george anthony's testimony the other day. i found him to be very combative, and his denial was very effusive. he said something like, oh, i find that funny. and i think when you look at the two together, it's pretty clear that on balance she wins that battle. and i think what's very important to note about that is the judge is going to instruct this jury, sanjay, that if they feel that a witness is lying about a particular piece of testimony, they are entitled to disregard all of the testimony from that witness. and where does that leave george anthony if just one juror this he's a liar. >> one thing that came up a bit we talked about this before, linda, was about the chloroform. tomorrow there may be records
that are released that prove that cindy anthony was at work and therefore not able to make the computer searches she claimed to have made, searching for chloroform among other things. how big a deal is that and those records? >> well, i'm sure the defense is probably working with their expert tonight to say those records are not a big deal because somebody else could have inputted her time sheets, could have shown she was at work. but i've always thought, sanjay, the issue of the chloroform was a red herring for this reason. her boyfriend at the time had an ad or a comedy act type ad on his web site. maybe it was a picture. that said win her over with chloroform. i thought that reason that they should give searching for chloroform or any member of the family is to see whether or not the boyfriend could be making chloroform, chloroforming her, clear forming the baby. so i never thought that was a big deal. i'm surprised about the turn at trial where everyone's fighting over the searches. >> all right. a lot of people interested in this obviously. linda and sonny, thanks so much. and coming up. the fcc gives stephen colbert the green light to start a political action committee.
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approved colbert's superpac which will let him raise money and buy tv time for political ads. smart move, fec, if there's one thing you don't want it's a feud with stephen colbert. although i have to say when that opportunity presented itself to anderson he didn't shy away as you'll see in this ridiculist classic. >> all right. time for the ridiculist. i got to admit i struggled tonight whether or not to add this person to the list. but i decided in the end that enough is enough. so tonight we're adding a man by the name of steven colbert to the list. now, at first i must admit hyde forgotten who steven colbert is. colbert? really? the t is silent. stephen colbert, apparently, my team of p.r. professionals actually tell me i have been on mr. colbert's show but i have no memory of that. anyway, a couple of weeks ago i put sean hannity on the ridiculist because a clip he showed of me which changed the meaning of what i said.
mr. colbert took issue and accused me of copying him. he went so far as to create something called the absurd you chart just to put me on it. >> you, sir, are nothing but a thief! because your secretary the ridiculist is a clear ripoff of my on notice board. and for stealing my idea, i'm putting you and your ridiculist on my absurd-u chart. >> absurd-u chart. words hurt, mr. colbert. words hurt. now, the very idea that i am copying you is simply ridonculist. i cannot believe that you of all people say i am copying you when in fact, sir, oh, that's right, sir, i'm going there, it has been you who has been copying me for years. that's right. i said it. i give you exhibit a. here you are on the cover of the current issue of "outside" magazine. like you ever go outside.
but oh, wow, where would you have come up with the idea of being on the cover of "outside" magazine. could it be from me? one year ago, april 2010, there i am. look. i'm on the the cover of "outside" magazine. not since i woke up disoriented smelling of toner at kinko's have i seen such ballot nt copying. far be it from me to say i had a more heroic pose. exhibit b. here's your ben and jerry's ice cream flavor, stephen colbert's american dream. vanilla ice cream with fudge covered waffle pieces and a swirl. could that have been from my ben and jerry's ice cream which came out years ago? perhaps you've heard of it. anderson cooper's white bread ripple. little chunks of dry white toast and vanilla ice cream and vanilla pieces, swirl of gin and a hint of tonic. may not be as well-known as yours, sir, but it does have a brisk business in kennebunkport
and locust valley late july to early august. i admit your chart was very funny, in particular the part where you used peanut butter to affix my picture to an actual chart. though i thought that was actually pretty inspired. >> all right. there you go. boom! mm mm. mm. how's that taste, anderson? i assume like peanut butter. i haven't even checked to see if you had a peanut allergy. the ratings feud is on. i await your next move. >> now, i know if i was one of these other cable anchors i would try to keep a ratings feud going with you. it would get attention, ratings, be mutually beneficial. but i'm willing to just let by gones be by gones. it's not worth it for me as we all know at the end of the day everyone goes to sleep after the daily show anyway.
so here's to you, stephen colbert. love your absurd-u chart and i'm proud to have you on tonight's ridiculist. pass the peanut butter, please. >> it's a braver man than we. we've been to a lot of war zones together but he's taken on stephen colbert. good for you, anderson. i like the ice cream flavor by the way. still , summer in the city and a cnn hero. in one of chicago's roughest neighborhoods one woman's crusade to get kid off the streets. losing your chex mix too easily? time to deploy the chex mix boring potato chip decoy bag. now no one will want to steal the deliciousness. with a variety of tastes and textures, only chex mix is a bag of interesting. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. introducing better car replacement, available only with liberty mutual auto insurance.
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tonight another cnn hero. she's a mother of eight from chicago's south side where gun violence and gangs are a fact of life. in 2003 she open her door to neighborhood kids and started a community center in her living room. recently she turned the buildings next door into a bigger haven for kids and teens, offering due torg, mentoring and job training to keep them off the streets, out of gangs and focused on their futures. take a look. >> guns, guns and more guns. these are our young people. these stones represent them. we're losing a generation to violence. >> when they start shooting you got to grab the kids and run in the house. >> people run in the house and close their doors. they don't want to talk about it. but there's some people who are not scared to go outside and i'm one of them. my name is diane latiker. we opened the community center called kids off the block. they're kids in gangs, homeless, some of them drug dealers. they got a lot of issues going on.
>> who signed up -- >> i tell kids this is a peace place. this is a safe place. >> i really want to be a veterinarian. >> we have leadership workshops, a range of things that goes on in here. we started out with 10 young people. the next thing i knew i had 15, then i had 25. at one point i had 75 young people in three rooms of my house. and that's why kids off the block started in my living room. we opened the doors to the new center in july. last year we served 301 young people. if they knock on that door, they can come in. >> i was 12 when i got in here. robbing people, stealing. diane, she changed my life. i love her for that. >> i'm not different from nobody else. i just opened up my door. why can't they all come outside and see what's going on in our neighborhoods? >> there are people here who care. and i'm one of them.